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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imrie,

Very interesting work here. Are you familiar with this survey? 
http://whatdoctorsthink.com/cgi-bin/comments.cgi?markettodoctors-results

Results of item #17 are consistent to what you are saying with regard to e-marketing. In the US we have Category 2 CME, a slightly lest strict continuing education program than f&quot;Category 1&quot;. What do you think about a Category 2 CME, or similar caliber information, being the deliverable which is e-marketed? To me it seems like it would foster that respected relationship that is so important.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imrie,</p>
<p>Very interesting work here. Are you familiar with this survey?<br />
<a href="http://whatdoctorsthink.com/cgi-bin/comments.cgi?markettodoctors-results" rel="nofollow">http://whatdoctorsthink.com/cgi-bin/comments.cgi?markettodoctors-results</a></p>
<p>Results of item #17 are consistent to what you are saying with regard to e-marketing. In the US we have Category 2 CME, a slightly lest strict continuing education program than f&#8221;Category 1&#8243;. What do you think about a Category 2 CME, or similar caliber information, being the deliverable which is e-marketed? To me it seems like it would foster that respected relationship that is so important.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Imrie</title>
		<link>http://imrie.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/will-e-marketing-in-the-pharmaceutical-industry-one-day-replace-the-role-of-the-personal-seller-as-the-nhs-continues-to-evolve/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Imrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please contiune to leave your comments as many people are still contacting me via email. 

Now working in the industry i&#039;d still be very interested in hearing your thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please contiune to leave your comments as many people are still contacting me via email. </p>
<p>Now working in the industry i&#8217;d still be very interested in hearing your thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: imrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>imrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for you comments Kevin. Dissertation is all done and dusted. 

I conducted in depth qualitative interviews across a range of primary care and secondary care prescribers.

In summary, my dissertation concluded that electronic marketing in most secondary care products was ineffective ‘alone’. However, e-Marketing used effectively as an integrated approach i.e. synchronising the appropriated messages and campaign themes created synergy and showed that the channel had potential to save sales force costs. 

Primary care respondents told a different story altogether. All GPs within the study claimed they refused to grant reps access. Google was used as their primary source of information for branded products. However, GPS claimed not to used sponsored links (i.e., add words). All claimed never to have been sent an e-detail before. I’m not sure if this was down to email permissions or if they have not been targeted. I’m unsure as I have only had experience working in e-marketing within secondary care. 

I’d be interested to hear more about the work your doing in primary care, as from what I concluded its seems a difficult area to market as attitudes are really against the marketeer to at perscriber level. 

 I’d be happy to forward you a copy of my final dissertation if it is of interest to you as it explores a range or areas around this topic? Please email myself at: imrie54@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for you comments Kevin. Dissertation is all done and dusted. </p>
<p>I conducted in depth qualitative interviews across a range of primary care and secondary care prescribers.</p>
<p>In summary, my dissertation concluded that electronic marketing in most secondary care products was ineffective ‘alone’. However, e-Marketing used effectively as an integrated approach i.e. synchronising the appropriated messages and campaign themes created synergy and showed that the channel had potential to save sales force costs. </p>
<p>Primary care respondents told a different story altogether. All GPs within the study claimed they refused to grant reps access. Google was used as their primary source of information for branded products. However, GPS claimed not to used sponsored links (i.e., add words). All claimed never to have been sent an e-detail before. I’m not sure if this was down to email permissions or if they have not been targeted. I’m unsure as I have only had experience working in e-marketing within secondary care. </p>
<p>I’d be interested to hear more about the work your doing in primary care, as from what I concluded its seems a difficult area to market as attitudes are really against the marketeer to at perscriber level. </p>
<p> I’d be happy to forward you a copy of my final dissertation if it is of interest to you as it explores a range or areas around this topic? Please email myself at: <a href="mailto:imrie54@hotmail.com">imrie54@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Grainger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Grainger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi There 

How is your dissertation going?  I am a pharmaceutical marketeer looking at launching a simplistic product to GP&#039;s for which electronic media could be ideal.

Looking forward to your reply</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi There </p>
<p>How is your dissertation going?  I am a pharmaceutical marketeer looking at launching a simplistic product to GP&#8217;s for which electronic media could be ideal.</p>
<p>Looking forward to your reply</p>
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		<title>By: GP 'A' (North East)</title>
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		<dc:creator>GP 'A' (North East)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately we do not see drug reps and marketing data tends to go straight in the bin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately we do not see drug reps and marketing data tends to go straight in the bin.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly Lince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polly Lince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked for two separate, complicated business units within the pharmaceutical industry in both adult and paediatric psychiatry and having been lucky enough to be involved in the successful pilot of closed loop marketing through the implementation of tablet P.C’s, I believe that e-marketing serves a worthy purpose but I do not believe that it can replace the personal seller in many circumstances.

In my experience, a ‘personal seller’, or ‘hospital specialist’ has come to mean ‘business advisor’ to many of the secondary care clinicians in both the adult and paediatric psychiatry sectors.  It is for this reason that I argue against the notion of e-marketing replacing the personal seller.  A member of a sales team in a specialised, secondary care setting provides an awful lot more than a simple sales pitch to the clinician.  In a setting where the needs and circumstances of individual patients are complex, I fear that an e-marketing tool will be insufficient in providing carefully structured and tailored answers to increasingly difficult and complicated questions.

A ‘personal seller’ should be considered as a ‘live’ competitive tool that can provide an instant and personal counter strategy to competitor actions and claims that are put forth by their clinicians.  Clinicians in such an environment view their time with drug representatives as an opportunity to validate and discuss claims and data provided by competitors.  Such experiences are relayed back to the central marketing team promptly, enabling an interfunctional awareness of competitor activities and the development of longer term coordinated counter marketing strategies.  It can be argued that the medium of e-marketing will not be able to fulfil this aspect of the ‘personal sellers’ role.

In the secondary care environment gaining access to influential and ‘important’ clinicians is also something that e-marketing may not be able achieve.  I also fear that de-personalising and altering the dynamic of the relationship between pharmaceutical companies and clinicians too much will result in negative consequences when it comes to recruitment for larger conferences and meetings whereby a stronger competitive drive is employed.

In a primary care setting, especially in the instance of a generic undifferentiated drug, I do believe that e-marketing may be able to provide a very useful solution and even replacement to the ‘personal seller’.  Given the fact that GP receptionists are notoriously difficult gatekeepers, and the almost ‘uncooperative’ or ‘begrudging’ culture of GP pharmaceutical sales it can be argued that e-marketing can provide valuable solutions.  
•	GP’s will not be exposed to the ‘annoyance’ of having countless meetings with drug reps they would rather not see – the e-marketing tool will allow GP’s to access information at times that are more convenient and at their own discretion. 
•	Valuable GP appointments are not taken by drugs reps and can be given to patients who really need them.
•	Pharmaceutical companies will not have to recruit and pay a whole sales team.
•	A basic e-marketing campaign can be employed at relative low cost (in comparison to employing a national sales team), especially for undifferentiated generic drugs such as antibiotics.
•	CRM activities can easily be employed.

The implementation of closed loop marketing with the use of tablet P.C’s has allowed my previous business unit to gather metric CRM data on clinicians patient trends and prescribing habits allowing a more targeted marketing approach when it comes to activities such as mailers, saving a substantial amount of marketing spend.  It has also allowed central marketing teams to tailor and enhance their electronic sales aid on the basis of what pages are being accesses for frequently.  It is on this basis that I recommended that e-marketing could be used to compliment personal sales and enhance value in the secondary care setting.  The success of the closed loop marketing pilot has been felt in juxtaposition with the use of the ‘personal sales team’.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked for two separate, complicated business units within the pharmaceutical industry in both adult and paediatric psychiatry and having been lucky enough to be involved in the successful pilot of closed loop marketing through the implementation of tablet P.C’s, I believe that e-marketing serves a worthy purpose but I do not believe that it can replace the personal seller in many circumstances.</p>
<p>In my experience, a ‘personal seller’, or ‘hospital specialist’ has come to mean ‘business advisor’ to many of the secondary care clinicians in both the adult and paediatric psychiatry sectors.  It is for this reason that I argue against the notion of e-marketing replacing the personal seller.  A member of a sales team in a specialised, secondary care setting provides an awful lot more than a simple sales pitch to the clinician.  In a setting where the needs and circumstances of individual patients are complex, I fear that an e-marketing tool will be insufficient in providing carefully structured and tailored answers to increasingly difficult and complicated questions.</p>
<p>A ‘personal seller’ should be considered as a ‘live’ competitive tool that can provide an instant and personal counter strategy to competitor actions and claims that are put forth by their clinicians.  Clinicians in such an environment view their time with drug representatives as an opportunity to validate and discuss claims and data provided by competitors.  Such experiences are relayed back to the central marketing team promptly, enabling an interfunctional awareness of competitor activities and the development of longer term coordinated counter marketing strategies.  It can be argued that the medium of e-marketing will not be able to fulfil this aspect of the ‘personal sellers’ role.</p>
<p>In the secondary care environment gaining access to influential and ‘important’ clinicians is also something that e-marketing may not be able achieve.  I also fear that de-personalising and altering the dynamic of the relationship between pharmaceutical companies and clinicians too much will result in negative consequences when it comes to recruitment for larger conferences and meetings whereby a stronger competitive drive is employed.</p>
<p>In a primary care setting, especially in the instance of a generic undifferentiated drug, I do believe that e-marketing may be able to provide a very useful solution and even replacement to the ‘personal seller’.  Given the fact that GP receptionists are notoriously difficult gatekeepers, and the almost ‘uncooperative’ or ‘begrudging’ culture of GP pharmaceutical sales it can be argued that e-marketing can provide valuable solutions.<br />
•	GP’s will not be exposed to the ‘annoyance’ of having countless meetings with drug reps they would rather not see – the e-marketing tool will allow GP’s to access information at times that are more convenient and at their own discretion.<br />
•	Valuable GP appointments are not taken by drugs reps and can be given to patients who really need them.<br />
•	Pharmaceutical companies will not have to recruit and pay a whole sales team.<br />
•	A basic e-marketing campaign can be employed at relative low cost (in comparison to employing a national sales team), especially for undifferentiated generic drugs such as antibiotics.<br />
•	CRM activities can easily be employed.</p>
<p>The implementation of closed loop marketing with the use of tablet P.C’s has allowed my previous business unit to gather metric CRM data on clinicians patient trends and prescribing habits allowing a more targeted marketing approach when it comes to activities such as mailers, saving a substantial amount of marketing spend.  It has also allowed central marketing teams to tailor and enhance their electronic sales aid on the basis of what pages are being accesses for frequently.  It is on this basis that I recommended that e-marketing could be used to compliment personal sales and enhance value in the secondary care setting.  The success of the closed loop marketing pilot has been felt in juxtaposition with the use of the ‘personal sales team’.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Slaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen Slaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it depends upon the drug being sold in question, and the market in which it competes.  In the Urinary Incontinence market HCP&#039;s are not as interested in the treatments as they are seen as costly and the problem itself is seen as something that can be dealt with and &#039;put up&#039; with.  Therefore when the rep visiting the HCP is up against such viewpoints their success is always going to be questionable.  Therefore the success of e-marketing may not necessary be any more effective, however its cost is much lower so therefore perhaps a switch to e-marketing is worth the risk.  I think only in the case of where reps liase with consultants in this area, or HCP&#039;s with a special interest in Urinary Incontinence they can make a unique contribution.  

I think this viewpoint is verified by the fact the salesforce that I supported has been let go, as their worth was deemed to be not enough considering their cost.  So therefore in a market where the problem is underestimated, or embaressing to talk about, e- marketing may be the medium of promotion for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it depends upon the drug being sold in question, and the market in which it competes.  In the Urinary Incontinence market HCP&#8217;s are not as interested in the treatments as they are seen as costly and the problem itself is seen as something that can be dealt with and &#8216;put up&#8217; with.  Therefore when the rep visiting the HCP is up against such viewpoints their success is always going to be questionable.  Therefore the success of e-marketing may not necessary be any more effective, however its cost is much lower so therefore perhaps a switch to e-marketing is worth the risk.  I think only in the case of where reps liase with consultants in this area, or HCP&#8217;s with a special interest in Urinary Incontinence they can make a unique contribution.  </p>
<p>I think this viewpoint is verified by the fact the salesforce that I supported has been let go, as their worth was deemed to be not enough considering their cost.  So therefore in a market where the problem is underestimated, or embaressing to talk about, e- marketing may be the medium of promotion for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wotherspoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Wotherspoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a manager of  retail and sales orgainisations for the past seven years my philosophy on the topic in concern is as follows.

A consumers perception is that the internet may be cheaper. They also may feel that they have control of the outcome of the transaction without third party influence i.e sales people.

This has the effect of empowment and control as a consumer which can be a positive experience.

When there is a customer service query, the process when making a purchase online is then potentially a difficult one in terms of speaking to someone directly or sending an e-mail.
Things to consider are timescales, premium or local rate numbers or not having the option to speak to someone whatsoever.

My belief is that face to face business will have indefinite longevity if the company supplying the service has the correct business strategy. If this strategy is excecuted effectively in terms of sales, service, product availability, value for money and the brand has loyalty on the high street. This can overcome the potential issues an online consumer may encounter.

For example the product is faulty and they can go straight to the local retailer and have an instant exchange.

Another example is when customers do not fully understand their own needs and must be qualified so that a considered choice is made to help with the decision to purchase.

In short whether you are an online retailer or you are based on the high street the quality of service the consumer has recieved historically will dictate where they make a purchase. One won&#039;t outweigh the other and dominate all purchases as some consumers like to buy face to face. Some don&#039;t trust using card details online and the offers on the high street due to competition doesn&#039;t differentiate massively compared to online deals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a manager of  retail and sales orgainisations for the past seven years my philosophy on the topic in concern is as follows.</p>
<p>A consumers perception is that the internet may be cheaper. They also may feel that they have control of the outcome of the transaction without third party influence i.e sales people.</p>
<p>This has the effect of empowment and control as a consumer which can be a positive experience.</p>
<p>When there is a customer service query, the process when making a purchase online is then potentially a difficult one in terms of speaking to someone directly or sending an e-mail.<br />
Things to consider are timescales, premium or local rate numbers or not having the option to speak to someone whatsoever.</p>
<p>My belief is that face to face business will have indefinite longevity if the company supplying the service has the correct business strategy. If this strategy is excecuted effectively in terms of sales, service, product availability, value for money and the brand has loyalty on the high street. This can overcome the potential issues an online consumer may encounter.</p>
<p>For example the product is faulty and they can go straight to the local retailer and have an instant exchange.</p>
<p>Another example is when customers do not fully understand their own needs and must be qualified so that a considered choice is made to help with the decision to purchase.</p>
<p>In short whether you are an online retailer or you are based on the high street the quality of service the consumer has recieved historically will dictate where they make a purchase. One won&#8217;t outweigh the other and dominate all purchases as some consumers like to buy face to face. Some don&#8217;t trust using card details online and the offers on the high street due to competition doesn&#8217;t differentiate massively compared to online deals.</p>
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		<title>By: imrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>imrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominic Coghlan, 

Yes, I&#039;d agree, Secondary care reps (especially therapy area such as HIV)may never be replaced by methods such as &#039;interactive eDetailing&#039; and animated websites.


Companies such as Merck have piloting  virtual reps which are able to complete 13 calls per day (compared with 8 for field reps) spending an average of 9 minutes (compared with 3 for field reps). Can you see this ever working in secondary care?  


With tighter regulatory controls, marketing professionals have been driven to look for new incentives. You mention CPD (Continual Professional Development) credits for completing on-line education? How did that work out? 

Were you able to measure the ROI? Do you feel that the project added value to the product, or creates better CRM between brand and company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominic Coghlan, </p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;d agree, Secondary care reps (especially therapy area such as HIV)may never be replaced by methods such as &#8216;interactive eDetailing&#8217; and animated websites.</p>
<p>Companies such as Merck have piloting  virtual reps which are able to complete 13 calls per day (compared with 8 for field reps) spending an average of 9 minutes (compared with 3 for field reps). Can you see this ever working in secondary care?  </p>
<p>With tighter regulatory controls, marketing professionals have been driven to look for new incentives. You mention CPD (Continual Professional Development) credits for completing on-line education? How did that work out? </p>
<p>Were you able to measure the ROI? Do you feel that the project added value to the product, or creates better CRM between brand and company?</p>
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		<title>By: Bunce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I would agree with initial contacts are probably going to come from human interactions, although I think with clever profiling you can get your HCPs in different target groups based on categories you can introduce on some form of &#039;Manage my profile&#039; web page. ie: I am a GP, I treat mostly elderly patients with mental illness. This would clearly help put this person in certain target lists - the difficulty is that you need to provide enough of an incentive to them to encourage them to dilvulge so much HONEST information about themselves - which will probably be in the form of aditional non-promotional email newsletters etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I would agree with initial contacts are probably going to come from human interactions, although I think with clever profiling you can get your HCPs in different target groups based on categories you can introduce on some form of &#8216;Manage my profile&#8217; web page. ie: I am a GP, I treat mostly elderly patients with mental illness. This would clearly help put this person in certain target lists &#8211; the difficulty is that you need to provide enough of an incentive to them to encourage them to dilvulge so much HONEST information about themselves &#8211; which will probably be in the form of aditional non-promotional email newsletters etc.</p>
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